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	<title>Comments on: How to Finish a Basement Bathroom &#8211; The Complete Series</title>
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		<title>By: Sunil</title>
		<link>http://www.handymanhowto.com/2009/02/28/finishing-a-basement-bathroom-the-complete-series/#comment-5181</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 14:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is really one of the best articles I have seen!  I&#039;m preparing to build my basement bathroom and I learned quite a few things I didn&#039;t know or think about - the basin alarm, the sink vent, SharkBite fittings and the use of the flexable sewage tee.  I was really sweating the task of getting the tees into the water and sewage lines but your ideas solve that problem!!

The only thing I&#039;d like to point out for anyone else coming into this type of a project is that it may not be possible to add the plumbing and electrical after the close-in.  In my case, all of it has to be done before drywall and tiling since I have no backside access.

Thanks!
Sunil]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is really one of the best articles I have seen!  I&#8217;m preparing to build my basement bathroom and I learned quite a few things I didn&#8217;t know or think about &#8211; the basin alarm, the sink vent, SharkBite fittings and the use of the flexable sewage tee.  I was really sweating the task of getting the tees into the water and sewage lines but your ideas solve that problem!!</p>
<p>The only thing I&#8217;d like to point out for anyone else coming into this type of a project is that it may not be possible to add the plumbing and electrical after the close-in.  In my case, all of it has to be done before drywall and tiling since I have no backside access.</p>
<p>Thanks!<br />
Sunil</p>
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		<title>By: BobJackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>BobJackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Etna,
Reproduction of the Copyrighted content on HandymanHowTo.com is strictly prohibited. In my opinion, Pinterest&#039;s business model of encouraging users to reproduce copyrighted content by &quot;pinning&quot; it on Pinterest.com is unethical and illegal. I therefore filed a &lt;a href=&quot;http://pinterest.com/about/copyright&quot; title=&quot;DMCA Notice of Alleged Infringement&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Digital Millennium Copyright Act&lt;/a&gt; (DMCA) notice to remove the infringing content.

Of concern for Pinterest&#039;s users is the &lt;a href=&quot;http://pinterest.com/about/terms/&quot; title=&quot;Pinterest Terms of Service&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pinterest Terms of Service&lt;/a&gt; (Section 7. Indemnity) requires &lt;strong&gt;YOU to defend Pinterest in the event of a lawsuit&lt;/strong&gt;. 

The following articles are helpful:

* &lt;a href=&quot;http://edudemic.com/2012/02/pinterest-delete/&quot; title=&quot;The Reason I Just Deleted My Pinterest Account&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Reason I Just Deleted My Pinterest Account&lt;/a&gt;
* &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonykosner/2012/03/15/pinterest-napster-for-housewives-or-wake-up-call-for-copyright/http://&quot; title=&quot;Pinterest: Napster for Housewives or Wake Up Call for a Better Copyright Idea?&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pinterest: Napster for Housewives or Wake Up Call for a Better Copyright Idea?&lt;/a&gt;
* &lt;a href=&quot;http://mashable.com/2012/03/21/pinterest-copyright-legal-issues/&quot; title=&quot;The Copyright Question: How to Protect Yourself on Pinterest&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;No, You Can’t Just Post Other People’s Stuff&lt;/a&gt;

Etna wrote:
&gt; Perhaps the email, tweet and facebook “like” icons on this page should be omitted as well in order to avoid further “sharing” of this project.

E-mail, Twitter and FaceBook sharing does not reproduce the content on HandymanHowTo.com because it simply links back to the original post for the user to read. For example, clicking the e-mail icon at the end of a project generates the following message:
   &quot;&lt;em&gt;Here is a link to a site I really like. http://www.handymanhowto.com/2009/02/28/finishing-a-basement-bathroom-the-complete-series/&lt;/em&gt;&quot; 

The problem with Pinterest is it makes a full size copy (&quot;reproduces&quot;) my photos on Pinterest.com, which I say is not &quot;fair use&quot; but copyright infringement. My prediction is the copyright issue will become untenable when Pinterest tries to monetize a business model that seemingly encourages the pinning of unauthorized content from hardworking authors such as myself.

&lt;strong&gt;As it stands, Pinterest complied with my DMCA request very quickly and I have no issues with HandymanHowTo.com readers who were affected.&lt;/strong&gt; I have since blocked the ability to &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;https://support.pinterest.com/entries/21101932-what-if-i-don-t-want-images-from-my-site-to-be-pinned&quot; title=&quot;What if I don&#039;t want images from my site to be pinned?&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pin&lt;/a&gt;&quot; my content, so this should prevent future misunderstandings.

Reading and sharing links to HandymanHowTo.com = Good! Illegal copying and posting my content on other websites = Bad!

I do appreciate you reaching out to me.

Thanks,
Bob]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Etna,<br />
Reproduction of the Copyrighted content on HandymanHowTo.com is strictly prohibited. In my opinion, Pinterest&#8217;s business model of encouraging users to reproduce copyrighted content by &#8220;pinning&#8221; it on Pinterest.com is unethical and illegal. I therefore filed a <a href="http://pinterest.com/about/copyright" title="DMCA Notice of Alleged Infringement" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Digital Millennium Copyright Act</a> (DMCA) notice to remove the infringing content.</p>
<p>Of concern for Pinterest&#8217;s users is the <a href="http://pinterest.com/about/terms/" title="Pinterest Terms of Service" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Pinterest Terms of Service</a> (Section 7. Indemnity) requires <strong>YOU to defend Pinterest in the event of a lawsuit</strong>. </p>
<p>The following articles are helpful:</p>
<p>* <a href="http://edudemic.com/2012/02/pinterest-delete/" title="The Reason I Just Deleted My Pinterest Account" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">The Reason I Just Deleted My Pinterest Account</a><br />
* <a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonykosner/2012/03/15/pinterest-napster-for-housewives-or-wake-up-call-for-copyright/http://" title="Pinterest: Napster for Housewives or Wake Up Call for a Better Copyright Idea?" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Pinterest: Napster for Housewives or Wake Up Call for a Better Copyright Idea?</a><br />
* <a href="http://mashable.com/2012/03/21/pinterest-copyright-legal-issues/" title="The Copyright Question: How to Protect Yourself on Pinterest" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">No, You Can’t Just Post Other People’s Stuff</a></p>
<p>Etna wrote:<br />
> Perhaps the email, tweet and facebook “like” icons on this page should be omitted as well in order to avoid further “sharing” of this project.</p>
<p>E-mail, Twitter and FaceBook sharing does not reproduce the content on HandymanHowTo.com because it simply links back to the original post for the user to read. For example, clicking the e-mail icon at the end of a project generates the following message:<br />
   &#8220;<em>Here is a link to a site I really like. <a href="http://www.handymanhowto.com/2009/02/28/finishing-a-basement-bathroom-the-complete-series/" rel="nofollow">http://www.handymanhowto.com/2009/02/28/finishing-a-basement-bathroom-the-complete-series/</a></em>&#8221; </p>
<p>The problem with Pinterest is it makes a full size copy (&#8220;reproduces&#8221;) my photos on Pinterest.com, which I say is not &#8220;fair use&#8221; but copyright infringement. My prediction is the copyright issue will become untenable when Pinterest tries to monetize a business model that seemingly encourages the pinning of unauthorized content from hardworking authors such as myself.</p>
<p><strong>As it stands, Pinterest complied with my DMCA request very quickly and I have no issues with HandymanHowTo.com readers who were affected.</strong> I have since blocked the ability to &#8220;<a href="https://support.pinterest.com/entries/21101932-what-if-i-don-t-want-images-from-my-site-to-be-pinned" title="What if I don't want images from my site to be pinned?" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Pin</a>&#8221; my content, so this should prevent future misunderstandings.</p>
<p>Reading and sharing links to HandymanHowTo.com = Good! Illegal copying and posting my content on other websites = Bad!</p>
<p>I do appreciate you reaching out to me.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Bob</p>
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		<title>By: etna</title>
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		<dc:creator>etna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently pinned this project and was notified that the pin was removed due to a copyright complaint.I apologize if I in any way infringed on your copyright. (Perhaps the email, tweet and facebook &quot;like&quot; icons on this page should be omitted as well in order to avoid further &quot;sharing&quot; of this project.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently pinned this project and was notified that the pin was removed due to a copyright complaint.I apologize if I in any way infringed on your copyright. (Perhaps the email, tweet and facebook &#8220;like&#8221; icons on this page should be omitted as well in order to avoid further &#8220;sharing&#8221; of this project.)</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.handymanhowto.com/2009/02/28/finishing-a-basement-bathroom-the-complete-series/#comment-4907</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 23:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The home builder roughed-in the plumbing which runs under the cement floor or in the wall:
* sewage basin
* shower and toilet drain pipes
* copper pipes inside wall for the toilet and sink

I did everything else as illustrated in the project series, including the hooking up the bathroom to the main water supply and sewer pipes. I filed for a Building Permit and passed all inspections.

If you&#039;re not comfortable and knowledgeable in what is to be done, definitely hire a licensed plumber. Hopefully you&#039;ll be in a more informed position having read about my basement bathroom project.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The home builder roughed-in the plumbing which runs under the cement floor or in the wall:<br />
* sewage basin<br />
* shower and toilet drain pipes<br />
* copper pipes inside wall for the toilet and sink</p>
<p>I did everything else as illustrated in the project series, including the hooking up the bathroom to the main water supply and sewer pipes. I filed for a Building Permit and passed all inspections.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re not comfortable and knowledgeable in what is to be done, definitely hire a licensed plumber. Hopefully you&#8217;ll be in a more informed position having read about my basement bathroom project.</p>
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		<title>By: atisha</title>
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		<dc:creator>atisha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 19:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Bob
Thank you so much for sharing this information. I wondered did you do the plumbing rough in work yourself? I see some DIY chatrooms  say you can do this yourself but I would feel more confident having a plumber take care of that part.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bob<br />
Thank you so much for sharing this information. I wondered did you do the plumbing rough in work yourself? I see some DIY chatrooms  say you can do this yourself but I would feel more confident having a plumber take care of that part.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 13:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You must verify what the home builder has roughed-in. In my situation, the plumbing vent pipe to the roof is only connected to the sewage basin. I installed a Studor Mini-Vent for the bathroom sink.

I&#039;m guessing your builder cemented in the shower drain pipe and you&#039;re trying to determine if there&#039;s a p-trap under the concrete? Try shining a flashlight down the shower pipe; do you see standing water at the bottom or at least what appears to be a U-curve? If the pipe is dry, pour some water down the pipe to fill up the p-trap. You should see standing water in the trap that will rise and fall slightly with changes in air pressure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must verify what the home builder has roughed-in. In my situation, the plumbing vent pipe to the roof is only connected to the sewage basin. I installed a Studor Mini-Vent for the bathroom sink.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing your builder cemented in the shower drain pipe and you&#8217;re trying to determine if there&#8217;s a p-trap under the concrete? Try shining a flashlight down the shower pipe; do you see standing water at the bottom or at least what appears to be a U-curve? If the pipe is dry, pour some water down the pipe to fill up the p-trap. You should see standing water in the trap that will rise and fall slightly with changes in air pressure.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 23:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When the builder puts in a rough in for the toilet sink and shower are they all connected to the vent and will the shower have a trap put in that is in the concrete ? Thanks Much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the builder puts in a rough in for the toilet sink and shower are they all connected to the vent and will the shower have a trap put in that is in the concrete ? Thanks Much.</p>
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		<title>By: Juma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 15:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amazing! Really helpful. And very neat! Thanks I&quot;ll follow it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing! Really helpful. And very neat! Thanks I&#8221;ll follow it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Klein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Klein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great article and excellent documentation  really well explained. Thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article and excellent documentation  really well explained. Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Jill F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2011 20:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have the best website I&#039;ve ever come across. I&#039;ve only been doing diy for a few years and love it, but I&#039;m was so tired of trying to learn from the diynetwork. They&#039;re so heavily edited that the part I&#039;m often interested in learning is cut out. You give great step-by-step detailed instructions that are easy to follow. My husband is amazed that I was able to remodel our guest bathroom from the subfloor up. Sites like yours make that possible. Thanks! Jill]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have the best website I&#8217;ve ever come across. I&#8217;ve only been doing diy for a few years and love it, but I&#8217;m was so tired of trying to learn from the diynetwork. They&#8217;re so heavily edited that the part I&#8217;m often interested in learning is cut out. You give great step-by-step detailed instructions that are easy to follow. My husband is amazed that I was able to remodel our guest bathroom from the subfloor up. Sites like yours make that possible. Thanks! Jill</p>
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