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	<title>Comments on: How to Clean Air Conditioner Evaporator Coils &#8211; Part 1</title>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.handymanhowto.com/2009/06/28/how-to-clean-air-conditioner-evaporator-coils-part-1/#comment-3312</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 18:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huge help Bob, thank you very much. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huge help Bob, thank you very much. <img src='http://www.handymanhowto.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bob Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.handymanhowto.com/2009/06/28/how-to-clean-air-conditioner-evaporator-coils-part-1/#comment-3231</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2011 00:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, the neighbor below your unit had water damage and the repairman says the water damage was caused by a leaking condensate from one of the A/C units on the upper floors, and you believe your unit may be the cause? Clogged condensate drain pipes are a common problem. 

An HVAC repairman can usually fix this for the price of a standard service call. Dirt, slime and algae tends to build up in the condensate drain outlet and/or pipe, causing the drain to clog, water will overflow and run down between the floors and walls. Cleaning isn&#039;t difficult - wipe away what&#039;s visible, run a bottle brush instrument down the pipe, blow it out with compressed air, chemically disinfect/kill the algae and rinse out the pipe, then put some time release algae inhibitor tablets in the condensate drain pan for long term (couple of months) relief. Most condensate drain pipes are PVC plastic and worst case a section can be sawed out to get access at a clog further down the pipe and replaced.

&gt; They said the water is coming from the condensation pipe that travels throughout out units. It serves us all.
If the HVAC technician says your drain pan and drain is fine, then take the matter up with your condo association as a common infrastructure maintenance responsibility.

&gt; mine hasn’t been cleaned in several years.
Yours may need inspection and cleaning anyway. You&#039;ll save money on the lower electric bills when the system is tuned up and running at optimum efficiency.

Please post back when you find the problem and how it was repaired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, the neighbor below your unit had water damage and the repairman says the water damage was caused by a leaking condensate from one of the A/C units on the upper floors, and you believe your unit may be the cause? Clogged condensate drain pipes are a common problem. </p>
<p>An HVAC repairman can usually fix this for the price of a standard service call. Dirt, slime and algae tends to build up in the condensate drain outlet and/or pipe, causing the drain to clog, water will overflow and run down between the floors and walls. Cleaning isn&#8217;t difficult &#8211; wipe away what&#8217;s visible, run a bottle brush instrument down the pipe, blow it out with compressed air, chemically disinfect/kill the algae and rinse out the pipe, then put some time release algae inhibitor tablets in the condensate drain pan for long term (couple of months) relief. Most condensate drain pipes are PVC plastic and worst case a section can be sawed out to get access at a clog further down the pipe and replaced.</p>
<p>&gt; They said the water is coming from the condensation pipe that travels throughout out units. It serves us all.<br />
If the HVAC technician says your drain pan and drain is fine, then take the matter up with your condo association as a common infrastructure maintenance responsibility.</p>
<p>&gt; mine hasn’t been cleaned in several years.<br />
Yours may need inspection and cleaning anyway. You&#8217;ll save money on the lower electric bills when the system is tuned up and running at optimum efficiency.</p>
<p>Please post back when you find the problem and how it was repaired.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 23:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in a condo(all electric) and my downstairs neighbor got a bad leak. They came out and cleaned her unit and said it&#039;s mine or the unit upstairs. My upstairs neighbor just replaced theirs and mine hasn&#039;t been cleaned in several years. I have little money and I am very concerned. They said the water is coming from the condensation pipe that travels throughout out units. It serves us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in a condo(all electric) and my downstairs neighbor got a bad leak. They came out and cleaned her unit and said it&#8217;s mine or the unit upstairs. My upstairs neighbor just replaced theirs and mine hasn&#8217;t been cleaned in several years. I have little money and I am very concerned. They said the water is coming from the condensation pipe that travels throughout out units. It serves us all.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.handymanhowto.com/2009/06/28/how-to-clean-air-conditioner-evaporator-coils-part-1/#comment-3229</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 00:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; The cold (liquid) side coming in from the compressor should be the one wrapped in insulation.
Nope, the photo is labeled correctly. 

The small copper pipe carries the relatively &quot;hot&quot; (or at least warm ~100F) high pressure liquid coming from the outside compressor/condenser unit to the air handler evaporator coils in the attic. See Figure 1.6 on page 8 and Figure 1.9 on page 10 of the &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.recampus.com/documents/book02_c01.pdf&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;PRINCIPLES OF AIR CONDITIONING&lt;/a&gt;&quot; as to why the liquid line from the condenser is hot in relative terms (100F).

Also see &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.austincc.edu/hart/howacworks.php&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How does air conditioning work?&lt;/a&gt;&quot; by Austin Community College. The small &quot;hot&quot; copper liquid line in question runs from the Condenser (#2) to the Metering Device (#3) in the Austin College diagram. The Metering Device is also known as an Expansion Valve which flashes the high pressure hot liquid refrigerant refrigerant to a low pressure cold (20F) gas for circulation in the evaporator coils. The larger copper pipe is the return refrigerant gas line that is remains somewhat cold after leaving the evaporator coils and must be insulated to avoid condensation and sweating all over the attic and inside the walls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; The cold (liquid) side coming in from the compressor should be the one wrapped in insulation.<br />
Nope, the photo is labeled correctly. </p>
<p>The small copper pipe carries the relatively &#8220;hot&#8221; (or at least warm ~100F) high pressure liquid coming from the outside compressor/condenser unit to the air handler evaporator coils in the attic. See Figure 1.6 on page 8 and Figure 1.9 on page 10 of the &#8220;<a href="http://www.recampus.com/documents/book02_c01.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">PRINCIPLES OF AIR CONDITIONING</a>&#8221; as to why the liquid line from the condenser is hot in relative terms (100F).</p>
<p>Also see &#8220;<a href="http://www.austincc.edu/hart/howacworks.php" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">How does air conditioning work?</a>&#8221; by Austin Community College. The small &#8220;hot&#8221; copper liquid line in question runs from the Condenser (#2) to the Metering Device (#3) in the Austin College diagram. The Metering Device is also known as an Expansion Valve which flashes the high pressure hot liquid refrigerant refrigerant to a low pressure cold (20F) gas for circulation in the evaporator coils. The larger copper pipe is the return refrigerant gas line that is remains somewhat cold after leaving the evaporator coils and must be insulated to avoid condensation and sweating all over the attic and inside the walls.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 22:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great writeup.  You have the refrigerant lines mislabeled on your photo.  The cold (liquid) side coming in from the compressor should be the one wrapped in insulation.  The gas return line should be the exposed copper line running back out to the compressor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great writeup.  You have the refrigerant lines mislabeled on your photo.  The cold (liquid) side coming in from the compressor should be the one wrapped in insulation.  The gas return line should be the exposed copper line running back out to the compressor.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Maul</title>
		<link>http://www.handymanhowto.com/2009/06/28/how-to-clean-air-conditioner-evaporator-coils-part-1/#comment-3152</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Maul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 04:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the information.  I&#039;ll try what you suggested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the information.  I&#8217;ll try what you suggested.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.handymanhowto.com/2009/06/28/how-to-clean-air-conditioner-evaporator-coils-part-1/#comment-3142</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 04:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt the foaming coil cleaner will remove the bits of fiberglass insulation plastered to the upstream side (dry side) of the evaporator coils. Coil cleaner is a detergent and disinfectant that won&#039;t break down fiberglass insulation mechanically wedged into the coil fins. What you need to do is get a new &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nucalgon.com/products/products_coil_cleaners.htm&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pump sprayer&lt;/a&gt; and direct a stream of very warm water from the far side (i.e. wet side) through the coils to knock off the insulation on the other side. (Don&#039;t use a pump sprayer that&#039;s had other household chemicals or pesticides in it or you&#039;ll be breathing it later.) This isn&#039;t &quot;pressure washing&quot;, rather it&#039;s applying light pressure to remove the insulation. You&#039;ll need to turn off the circuit breaker and place a pan under the coils to catch the water and protect the blower motor and other electronics from getting wet. 

If you&#039;re *very careful*, a soft long bristle brush can be used to help remove the insulation. Go easy and check your progress because the fins are easy to bend/fold over.

The next issue is to determine how insulation is getting blown onto the coils. Do you have a break in the plenum or ductwork? Has an insulation panel inside the air handler become loose? Is the air filter seated properly? The color and texture (pink, yellow, white, black; coarse or fine) of the insulation is usually a good indicator of where it originated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt the foaming coil cleaner will remove the bits of fiberglass insulation plastered to the upstream side (dry side) of the evaporator coils. Coil cleaner is a detergent and disinfectant that won&#8217;t break down fiberglass insulation mechanically wedged into the coil fins. What you need to do is get a new <a href="http://www.nucalgon.com/products/products_coil_cleaners.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">pump sprayer</a> and direct a stream of very warm water from the far side (i.e. wet side) through the coils to knock off the insulation on the other side. (Don&#8217;t use a pump sprayer that&#8217;s had other household chemicals or pesticides in it or you&#8217;ll be breathing it later.) This isn&#8217;t &#8220;pressure washing&#8221;, rather it&#8217;s applying light pressure to remove the insulation. You&#8217;ll need to turn off the circuit breaker and place a pan under the coils to catch the water and protect the blower motor and other electronics from getting wet. </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re *very careful*, a soft long bristle brush can be used to help remove the insulation. Go easy and check your progress because the fins are easy to bend/fold over.</p>
<p>The next issue is to determine how insulation is getting blown onto the coils. Do you have a break in the plenum or ductwork? Has an insulation panel inside the air handler become loose? Is the air filter seated properly? The color and texture (pink, yellow, white, black; coarse or fine) of the insulation is usually a good indicator of where it originated.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Maul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Maul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 16:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My coils are inverted compared to your photo.  The inner part is very clean and water appears there.  The outer part is dry and appears to have collected pieces of the insulation from the surroundings.

Should I be using a cleaner on the outer dry part to improve circulation/performance?

Very nice site with the best information I&#039;ve seen.  Thanks for making it available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My coils are inverted compared to your photo.  The inner part is very clean and water appears there.  The outer part is dry and appears to have collected pieces of the insulation from the surroundings.</p>
<p>Should I be using a cleaner on the outer dry part to improve circulation/performance?</p>
<p>Very nice site with the best information I&#8217;ve seen.  Thanks for making it available.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.handymanhowto.com/2009/06/28/how-to-clean-air-conditioner-evaporator-coils-part-1/#comment-3130</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 11:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A chilled water temperature problem (too warm) is unlikely, otherwise your neighbors would be complaining. As I wrote in my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.handymanhowto.com/2009/06/28/how-to-clean-air-conditioner-evaporator-coils-part-1/#comment-3082&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;July 25&lt;/a&gt; reply:

    &quot;My recommendation is to call a HVAC company to inspect your unit for a bad control valve, check the thermostat and condition of the coils. My bet is you have a problem with the control valve.&quot;

To clarify, I believe you have a problem with the water control valve or the control circuitry (relay board) that operates the valve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A chilled water temperature problem (too warm) is unlikely, otherwise your neighbors would be complaining. As I wrote in my <a href="http://www.handymanhowto.com/2009/06/28/how-to-clean-air-conditioner-evaporator-coils-part-1/#comment-3082" rel="nofollow">July 25</a> reply:</p>
<p>    &#8220;My recommendation is to call a HVAC company to inspect your unit for a bad control valve, check the thermostat and condition of the coils. My bet is you have a problem with the control valve.&#8221;</p>
<p>To clarify, I believe you have a problem with the water control valve or the control circuitry (relay board) that operates the valve.</p>
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		<title>By: Felice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 03:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jackson....hello...
do you think the problem
is likely from the &#039;boiler room&#039; ...that
the liquid from there is not cold
enough? Thank you for your help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jackson&#8230;.hello&#8230;<br />
do you think the problem<br />
is likely from the &#8216;boiler room&#8217; &#8230;that<br />
the liquid from there is not cold<br />
enough? Thank you for your help.</p>
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